tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post161375427899903477..comments2023-11-05T08:57:24.197+00:00Comments on Sheffield Uni Occupation In Solidarity with Gaza: UPDATE on Events Going on THIS WEEKSheffield Occupationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16936784561231083861noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-18650929895371732682009-03-23T20:26:00.000+00:002009-03-23T20:26:00.000+00:00"I had much fun reading the shit posted here by pe..."I had much fun reading the shit posted here by people against the occupation. I have seen what war does, and i can assure you...computers and books help more than you can imagine. It may not make any sense to you guys, but that's because you dont understand what it is to not have them...<BR/><BR/>Go to war torn countries and see for yourself. I support the occupation, help is help, no matter if its material, psychological or physical contribution.<BR/><BR/>Some of you people have no idea what these people are trying to accomplish and are only concerned with your own problems, I hope there's nobody there to catch you when you fall. Ill be there for my brothers and sisters, regardless of if they know me or not."<BR/>+1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-30614033092137564812009-03-23T18:16:00.000+00:002009-03-23T18:16:00.000+00:00Tell you what - use of the word 'comrade' doesnt a...Tell you what - use of the word 'comrade' doesnt alienate me half as much as the illegal occupation of buildingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-54209502931056257532009-03-23T17:29:00.000+00:002009-03-23T17:29:00.000+00:00I also agree with not using the word Comrade, I ha...I also agree with not using the word Comrade, I have been told that does alienate people slightly.<BR/><BR/>NatashaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-53031436155225199792009-03-23T17:26:00.000+00:002009-03-23T17:26:00.000+00:00http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDM...http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=37672&SESSION=899<BR/><BR/><BR/>heyy this is a list of MPs who have signed a motion supporting the occupations, we should contact some of them and get them write to the VC. <BR/><BR/>Natasha V xxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-83636099603270193022009-03-23T17:08:00.000+00:002009-03-23T17:08:00.000+00:00there arethere areAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-28321009720006747092009-03-23T17:00:00.000+00:002009-03-23T17:00:00.000+00:00i hope there are showers in the hicks building.i hope there are showers in the hicks building.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-37033830204416349302009-03-23T15:48:00.000+00:002009-03-23T15:48:00.000+00:00can you tell fellow occupiers to stop using the te...can you tell fellow occupiers to stop using the term "comrades"<BR/><BR/>It kinda brings the occupation into disrepute, Student communists are a really annoying evolution of hippies, but without all the good music.<BR/><BR/>plus palestine is not communist, does not want to be communist, and will never be communist, just concentrate on the illegal occupation bit.<BR/><BR/>Everyone hates socialists, it doesn't help the cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-42765520857039024782009-03-23T13:34:00.000+00:002009-03-23T13:34:00.000+00:00simple facts are:1)both israel and palenstine are ...simple facts are:<BR/>1)both israel and palenstine are in the wrong<BR/>2)you have no right to be in buidling!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-44037371007409776162009-03-23T11:53:00.000+00:002009-03-23T11:53:00.000+00:00http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/01/14/getting-our...http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/01/14/getting-our-heads-round-hamas/<BR/><BR/>http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/new/Special_Report_The_Hamas_Propaganda_War.asp<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/08/callhamastoaccountAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-63055423970859249892009-03-23T11:34:00.000+00:002009-03-23T11:34:00.000+00:00'In France, if the strikers were being treated fai...'In France, if the strikers were being treated fairly, they wouldn't be striking -- they have a right to a decent job just as you have the right to a decent education. The only difference is that you're paying for one and they're being paid for the other.'<BR/><BR/>If you read what I wrote at 22:04, you will see I was actually talking about French universities, not workers. These are closed down by STUDENTS on strike who block up doors with tables and chairs so nobody can get in. Educate yourself. So my question remains, do you think such strikes are equally legitimate as your occupation? Because from where I'm standing it doesn't seem to be such a great difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-53267961495748855672009-03-23T11:32:00.000+00:002009-03-23T11:32:00.000+00:00In an attempt to get back on message, Israeli stat...In an attempt to get back on message, Israeli state terrorism is the issue - IDf soldiers have been snapping T-Shirts celebrating their war crimes:<BR/><BR/>http://gazasolidarity.blogspot.com/2009/03/world-clamour-grows-to-indict-israel.html<BR/><BR/>Spread the support for occupation on campus and ignore the cynicsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-78569517930559720372009-03-23T11:05:00.001+00:002009-03-23T11:05:00.001+00:00universities are in the real world - you quite cle...universities are in the real world - you quite clearly are notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-16048563655412812302009-03-23T11:05:00.000+00:002009-03-23T11:05:00.000+00:00I don't expect the Palestinians asked you to occup...I don't expect the Palestinians asked you to occupy the lecture theatre on their behalf either.<BR/><BR/>But you did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-7699954049008786352009-03-23T11:04:00.000+00:002009-03-23T11:04:00.000+00:00"I expect no less than a building to be occupied i..."I expect no less than a building to be occupied in my name"<BR/><BR/>Where does it say that we acted on your behalf?Sheffield Occupationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16936784561231083861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-74885692488803647422009-03-23T10:59:00.000+00:002009-03-23T10:59:00.000+00:00As far as I am aware university is a part of 'the ...As far as I am aware university is a part of 'the real world' as you put it... unless I've spent the last few years being lectured to in cyberspace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-87816278544517613872009-03-23T10:13:00.000+00:002009-03-23T10:13:00.000+00:00Time to up the ante surely..........Dirty protest ...Time to up the ante surely..........<BR/><BR/><BR/>Dirty protest anyone ?<BR/><BR/>I do support your endeavors and i live in hope that at least some of you will carry on with these activities after you leave uni.<BR/><BR/>However,when you leave and join the real world i suspect the majority will not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-73501669960299722732009-03-23T09:51:00.000+00:002009-03-23T09:51:00.000+00:00"I hope there's nobody there to catch you when you..."I hope there's nobody there to catch you when you fall. "<BR/><BR/>I expect no less than a building to be occupied in my nameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-51212767183859782362009-03-23T02:47:00.000+00:002009-03-23T02:47:00.000+00:00'Oooohhhh, look over there! There's a bandwagon I ...'Oooohhhh, look over there! There's a bandwagon I can jump on!'<BR/><BR/>Wow, you must think you're so cool showing your cynicism on a blog you disagree with! Fact is, many of us have been involved in the movement for a while, and for those who haven't, then there is nothing wrong with joining up now.<BR/><BR/>If your main disagreement with the occupation movement is that 30 universities have been occupied, then you seriously need to grow a backbone and start standing up for your politics as opposed to not doing something because you want to seem different, ie: "not jumping on the bandwagon".Duc de Sadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16133744306446910733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-52498318058255022512009-03-23T02:36:00.000+00:002009-03-23T02:36:00.000+00:00I had much fun reading the shit posted here by peo...I had much fun reading the shit posted here by people against the occupation. I have seen what war does, and i can assure you...computers and books help more than you can imagine. It may not make any sense to you guys, but that's because you dont understand what it is to not have them...<BR/><BR/>Go to war torn countries and see for yourself. I support the occupation, help is help, no matter if its material, psychological or physical contribution.<BR/><BR/>Some of you people have no idea what these people are trying to accomplish and are only concerned with your own problems, I hope there's nobody there to catch you when you fall. Ill be there for my brothers and sisters, regardless of if they know me or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-58809067397916386582009-03-23T01:45:00.000+00:002009-03-23T01:45:00.000+00:00'Oooohhhh, look over there! There's a bandwagon I ...'Oooohhhh, look over there! There's a bandwagon I can jump on!'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-69460564571257570642009-03-23T00:37:00.000+00:002009-03-23T00:37:00.000+00:00There are members of the AWL, SWP, Anarchist Feder...There are members of the AWL, SWP, Anarchist Federation in the occupation and whilst some are, as you correctly mention, not students at the University of Sheffield, the vast majority, and the vast majority of the occupation as a whole are. I would also like to add that the majority of occupiers are non-affiliated to any organisation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-67427951473168512009-03-22T22:57:00.000+00:002009-03-22T22:57:00.000+00:00Those involved in this are The AWL, SWP Anarchist ...Those involved in this are The AWL, SWP Anarchist Fedration, and from when we was there, it seemed a lot of outside and former students, not current ones, there are issues regards all learning places, but is not better there taken up by students themselves? other than just outsiders of which there seem to be more than students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-54045360481616339362009-03-22T22:51:00.000+00:002009-03-22T22:51:00.000+00:00"Do you really want British universities to shut d..."Do you really want British universities to shut down due to strike action for months on end as regularly happens in France? Would you consider that to be fair?"<BR/>It is not what is fair for the consumer (and yes, students are now consumers) that matters. It is what is fair for everybody. In France, if the strikers were being treated fairly, they wouldn't be striking -- they have a right to a decent job just as you have the right to a decent education. The only difference is that you're paying for one and they're being paid for the other. Is that such a biggie?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-49827931156241044192009-03-22T22:39:00.000+00:002009-03-22T22:39:00.000+00:00To Joe: - you can have whatever political beliefs ...To Joe: - you can have whatever political beliefs you have - however misguided. What you cannot do is force them on other people and try to force the university into agreeing with you.<BR/><BR/>So your arguments hold no weight due to your bullying and blackmail tactics<BR/><BR/>And all of this is helping no-one - at all, get a grip on reality and realise your studies will soon cease due to your foolish actionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1452633151809535673.post-39385534873714325582009-03-22T22:04:00.000+00:002009-03-22T22:04:00.000+00:00Re: 21:36 -Talk about hypocritical, 'Anonymous'. I...Re: 21:36 -<BR/><BR/>Talk about hypocritical, 'Anonymous'. I'm hiding behind no label. If you really want to know, I'm the same Peter that commented at 17:15, 17:46, 18:10, 19:50, and 20:41 on this thread and at 11:02, 11:39 and 12:29 on the previous. But enough banalities, how about you actually try to respond to all the points I've made rather than crying about my identity?<BR/><BR/>Re: Joe @ 21:41 -<BR/><BR/>Back to the old 'we're not disrupting anyone' line, eh? As I've asked before, if that is the case, then why are you occupying lecture theatres instead of, for instance, the concourse? And for you information, I have already contacted Prof. Burnett to convey my full support for the University's legal pursuit of the occupiers.<BR/><BR/>Also, I'm interested as regards how far you consider it is legitimate to disregard my apathy. Occupying lecture theatres is one thing, but how far down this road will you go? If your extortionate methods succeed, I repeat again that it would only serve as a precedent for more groups to act even more extremely. Do you really want British universities to shut down due to strike action for months on end as regularly happens in France? Would you consider that to be fair?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com